Misunderstandings and Social Motivation
Apr. 13th, 2025 07:03 pmAfter a lifetime of putting sharp, jagged pieces together, I've come to the conclusion that I can basically expect nothing socially from neurotypicals, at least not the USian kind. Their core motivation is just too different from mine. I want people in my life for intellectual stimulation (and one for physical intimacy); they want people for...just bare social contact I guess. I mean, some of them like intellecual stimulation as well, and also people who share their hobbies and interests, other athletes to compete against, etc., but those are really secondary desires I think. The core desire seems to be something more basic. It has similarities to what I want, but it's not the same. I don't know the best way to describe it and I haven't mapped all the contours of it; I'm only observing various instances of it, and as an unsympathetic outsider. I want to say they want people to commune with them; commune seems like a good word. I, on the other hand, am fine with more social distance, even in my intimate relationships.
I just want people to see things for what they are, see me for who I am, believe what I say, and stop trying to read into whatever I do or say. If I say, for example, that I am angry, I'm content that people know that I am angry. I don't need them to empathize with my feelings. I don't want them to try. They will fail because they see things from their perspective and not mine. Emotions are subjective and their experience is personal; I don't generally consider them something to share. They can't really be shared. I mean, two people who know each other well can be happy about the same thing at the same place and time and communicating their happiness to each other, but they are each having their own personal experience of happiness, not exactly sharing a single happiness. Plus emotions have physiological component, and no one can know what it feels like to be in someone else's body, to feel someone else's heart pound.
This has gotten off-topic. I'm drowsy and I can't even remember what I wanted to post.
I woke up too early again this morning, but I think I know why: it wasn't just cinnamon that I'd added to my just-before-bed meal the day before yesterday. I also had psyllium husk. So that's what I'm going to add tonight.
I would like to be at 3,500 Mandarin "words" by the end of this year. By my rough calculations, I'd have to learn over eleven words per day for the rest of the year. I'm currently learning eight per day, ten on occasion. Actually, some of them are review terms from Pimsleur. Well, I want to be at 3,500 total, they don't all have to be new.
Oh, I remember what I wanted to say: I think people have thought me mean and rude online, but it's because we had different motivations for being in those spaces. I wanted intellectual stimulation, so I got frustrated with people who would respond without reading, post off-topic, comment on shit they knew nothing about, etc. And I expressed my frustration. In a couple of the more egregious cases, I called people morons. Normies don't really care about intellectual stimulation most of the time. It's probably not as true of people who are academics are significantly above average intelligence, but those are people I wouldn't often come across. Normies care about just general socializing, and expecting people to stick to the topic, repond thoughtfully, and actually read more than a few sentences is at odds with that apparently, and questioning, disagreeing with, and dissecting others' opinions is anti-social and borderline rude, particularly among womyn. So I don't really bother anymore, although I will take liberties when I'm not talking to USians.
I wish it had not taken me half a lifetime to figure this out. I could have spared myself some mental baggage and put more effort towards socializing in a rewarding way. What's exasperating is that they seem preoccupied with what strikes them as rude but see no problem responding blindly, wasting my time with poorly thought-out drivel, acting as if their unfounded assumptions are facts, and generally disrespecting the purpose of a discussion forum by basically trying to shut down discussion. If people would at least consider those things as rude, I'd be more content. This is specific to text-based interaction because, me being fatigued by talking and listening, I don't seek out offline discussion.
I remember my ex telling me that, when she first started messaging me, she noticed that I didn't ask her questions about herself even though she asked me questions about myself. This difference in social expectations is another good illustration of what I'm trying to outline. I ask questions based on what interests me, and I expect others to do the same. Normies ask questions to "be nice", to show social interest, to have yet another one of the shallow interactions they seem to love, even if they don't actually care about the answers. It's inauthentic and I don't consider it to be "nice" at all. Being asked about myself doesn't make me feel particularly good even when it is authentic. I just view it as someone else's curiosity (when authentic) and an annoying part of culture (when it's not). So the "niceness" doesn't work on me and the social connection people are trying with this behavior to make fails. I don't need random attention and I dislike people trying to make me feel good or feel anything, really. I'll feel whatever I'll feel according to the circumstances, and meddling is not welcome. And indirectness (which is more of a cultural thing I think) never gives me any positive feelings.
I can't tell if this is kind of rambly or not.